<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: How to Talk to a UFOlogist (if you must)</title>
	<atom:link href="http://skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/how-to-talk-to-a-ufologist/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/how-to-talk-to-a-ufologist/</link>
	<description>The official blog of the Skeptologists</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:45:30 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/how-to-talk-to-a-ufologist/#comment-15261</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://skepticblog.org/?p=4070#comment-15261</guid>
		<description>The thing about believing in UFO&#039;s and direct alien contact is why would such an advanced intelligence bother with cloak and dagger tactics (occasionally coming out for a light show in the middle of nowhere) if we are actively seeking contact with the likes of them? They&#039;re shy, yet vastly superior to us? And why, in their medical probing, do they require the use of utensils, metallic instruments if they could probably scan our bodies and extract the materials needed with some other device? And why the hell do they need us anyways? You&#039;re telling me that throughout their intergalactic travels they found us to be particularly useful in whatever the hell they could possibly be doing? Sounds like we turned visions of demons and elves and angels into little green and gray men. Religious iconography was replaced by the blasting of these new fantastic images at us by magazine covers and comic books and through television. And fear. And the ability of the human imagination to fill in the gaps. We formed a collective vision-experience around a new set of images, not necessarily a new set of archetypes (because an incubus used to be the demon that watched over women in the night, and would take them into malicious and sexually charged nightmares; i.e. into a spaceship for some sex-oriented experiments). Instead of horns you now get big black eyes. 

UFO&#039;s have not been proven to be occupied by alien entities. And government refusal to talk about these supposed incidents (no matter how numerous or descriptive and vivid the accounts) is not proof either. Just means they might be covering up some sort of blunder they made on their part. A die-hard believer asks no questions, but why it happened to them. A better question would be, has it happened to anyone? Belief does not prove a thing; nor does proof lead to belief. That&#039;s the crux of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing about believing in UFO&#8217;s and direct alien contact is why would such an advanced intelligence bother with cloak and dagger tactics (occasionally coming out for a light show in the middle of nowhere) if we are actively seeking contact with the likes of them? They&#8217;re shy, yet vastly superior to us? And why, in their medical probing, do they require the use of utensils, metallic instruments if they could probably scan our bodies and extract the materials needed with some other device? And why the hell do they need us anyways? You&#8217;re telling me that throughout their intergalactic travels they found us to be particularly useful in whatever the hell they could possibly be doing? Sounds like we turned visions of demons and elves and angels into little green and gray men. Religious iconography was replaced by the blasting of these new fantastic images at us by magazine covers and comic books and through television. And fear. And the ability of the human imagination to fill in the gaps. We formed a collective vision-experience around a new set of images, not necessarily a new set of archetypes (because an incubus used to be the demon that watched over women in the night, and would take them into malicious and sexually charged nightmares; i.e. into a spaceship for some sex-oriented experiments). Instead of horns you now get big black eyes. </p>
<p>UFO&#8217;s have not been proven to be occupied by alien entities. And government refusal to talk about these supposed incidents (no matter how numerous or descriptive and vivid the accounts) is not proof either. Just means they might be covering up some sort of blunder they made on their part. A die-hard believer asks no questions, but why it happened to them. A better question would be, has it happened to anyone? Belief does not prove a thing; nor does proof lead to belief. That&#8217;s the crux of it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/how-to-talk-to-a-ufologist/#comment-14391</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://skepticblog.org/?p=4070#comment-14391</guid>
		<description>I want to say thank you to Michael Shermer for autographing my UFO and my brother&#039;s UFO photos:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/Dusto/MichaelShermerUFO.jpg

You will have to decide for yourselves what it is.  No seriously, take a look before reading on.  This disclaimer is a spoiler alert, you want to look at the photo first.  So, is it a flying saucer carrying extra-terrestrial beings who have traversed the vast distances of interstellar space in order dive into our atmosphere to survey our planet?  Or, is it a flying saucer lid from a cooking pot being thrown into the air?  I guess we will never know...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to say thank you to Michael Shermer for autographing my UFO and my brother&#8217;s UFO photos:</p>
<p><a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/Dusto/MichaelShermerUFO.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/Dusto/MichaelShermerUFO.jpg</a></p>
<p>You will have to decide for yourselves what it is.  No seriously, take a look before reading on.  This disclaimer is a spoiler alert, you want to look at the photo first.  So, is it a flying saucer carrying extra-terrestrial beings who have traversed the vast distances of interstellar space in order dive into our atmosphere to survey our planet?  Or, is it a flying saucer lid from a cooking pot being thrown into the air?  I guess we will never know&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Laih</title>
		<link>http://skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/how-to-talk-to-a-ufologist/#comment-12716</link>
		<dc:creator>Laih</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://skepticblog.org/?p=4070#comment-12716</guid>
		<description>Max, that is arguably one of the best identification charts I&#039;ve ever seen. Thank you SO MUCH for sharing that and giving me quite the laugh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, that is arguably one of the best identification charts I&#8217;ve ever seen. Thank you SO MUCH for sharing that and giving me quite the laugh!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Donna Gore</title>
		<link>http://skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/how-to-talk-to-a-ufologist/#comment-12712</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna Gore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://skepticblog.org/?p=4070#comment-12712</guid>
		<description>This is exactly what Dr. Shostak discussed at his DragonCon panel, and yes, he was quite humorous and entertaining.

And WE MISSED YOU, Dr. Shermer!!!  Hope you can come back next year.

There was no &quot;smackdown&quot; this year.......I think you guys scared em off !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly what Dr. Shostak discussed at his DragonCon panel, and yes, he was quite humorous and entertaining.</p>
<p>And WE MISSED YOU, Dr. Shermer!!!  Hope you can come back next year.</p>
<p>There was no &#8220;smackdown&#8221; this year&#8230;&#8230;.I think you guys scared em off !!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/how-to-talk-to-a-ufologist/#comment-12390</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://skepticblog.org/?p=4070#comment-12390</guid>
		<description>its been interesting seeing the response to my postings but there will not be anymore. I have better things to do with my time. so its a goodbye from me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its been interesting seeing the response to my postings but there will not be anymore. I have better things to do with my time. so its a goodbye from me.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/how-to-talk-to-a-ufologist/#comment-12372</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 09:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://skepticblog.org/?p=4070#comment-12372</guid>
		<description>i have never once mentioned seeing aliens as part of any ufo&#039;s i have seen.i have never seen an alien or had any communication at any level with them but may have been subject to attempted telepathic communication. i am just telling you what i have seen. i am not concerned if i am believed. but what have i got to gain for talking about such events ? when i say i seen something not of this world thats exactly what i seen but i have never disclosed to anyone exactly what it was and the reason for that is that it was so incredible and frightening that i would understandably be dismissed as a complete liar. on seeing various ufo&#039;s i have been in touch with a respected monitoring group, the police and the management and security gate guard of a nearby factory. i suppose i could spend lots of time and money presenting evidence but i am not trying to prove anything. these events happened some years back but i would consider undertaking a lie detector test sometime in the future. there is one thing i would like to say about such sightings with the exception of one occasion and that is the feeling that these objects are not only alien in the sense they are not man made but are a threat to mankind and our home planet. its strange how humans respond for when i reported a sighting to a security guard that almost happened above the factories security gatehouse where he was stationed he admitted that he and a colleague were seeing ufo objects outside the factory security fencing. however, weeks later when he seen me in one of the local diy stores he made it obvious that his family who were with him were being laughingly told by him of our encounter, no doubt with me being the subject of a joke or two and him conveniently forgetting his admissions of having seen ufo objects. fellow beings be worried and concerned about these sightings from all around the world. there is much more i could say on this posting but that is best kept quiet but be assured when i reported such events &#039;but not in full&#039; to people who need to know they did not dismiss what i had to say. they took matters seriously and i have since found out why. the world needs to be making preparations for at least some kind of cohesive response should an encounter with ufo manifestations or/and alien appearances happen to such an extent that it cannot be waffled away. unprepared minds could flounder with mass panic and trauma and is partly the reason why people like me should say something as we will all be in the same boat if matters develop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have never once mentioned seeing aliens as part of any ufo&#8217;s i have seen.i have never seen an alien or had any communication at any level with them but may have been subject to attempted telepathic communication. i am just telling you what i have seen. i am not concerned if i am believed. but what have i got to gain for talking about such events ? when i say i seen something not of this world thats exactly what i seen but i have never disclosed to anyone exactly what it was and the reason for that is that it was so incredible and frightening that i would understandably be dismissed as a complete liar. on seeing various ufo&#8217;s i have been in touch with a respected monitoring group, the police and the management and security gate guard of a nearby factory. i suppose i could spend lots of time and money presenting evidence but i am not trying to prove anything. these events happened some years back but i would consider undertaking a lie detector test sometime in the future. there is one thing i would like to say about such sightings with the exception of one occasion and that is the feeling that these objects are not only alien in the sense they are not man made but are a threat to mankind and our home planet. its strange how humans respond for when i reported a sighting to a security guard that almost happened above the factories security gatehouse where he was stationed he admitted that he and a colleague were seeing ufo objects outside the factory security fencing. however, weeks later when he seen me in one of the local diy stores he made it obvious that his family who were with him were being laughingly told by him of our encounter, no doubt with me being the subject of a joke or two and him conveniently forgetting his admissions of having seen ufo objects. fellow beings be worried and concerned about these sightings from all around the world. there is much more i could say on this posting but that is best kept quiet but be assured when i reported such events &#8216;but not in full&#8217; to people who need to know they did not dismiss what i had to say. they took matters seriously and i have since found out why. the world needs to be making preparations for at least some kind of cohesive response should an encounter with ufo manifestations or/and alien appearances happen to such an extent that it cannot be waffled away. unprepared minds could flounder with mass panic and trauma and is partly the reason why people like me should say something as we will all be in the same boat if matters develop.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: baryogenesis</title>
		<link>http://skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/how-to-talk-to-a-ufologist/#comment-12342</link>
		<dc:creator>baryogenesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://skepticblog.org/?p=4070#comment-12342</guid>
		<description>Once again, very late to the party. The claims by Dan appear to be ballooning into the realm of the fantastic. No one here -AFAIK - was witness to these orbs, so we must go with whatever evidence is presented. Oh...there is no evidence. Sorry, mate, but are you seriously asking readers of this blog to accept any of these claims as evidence of aliens? Originally, some here tried to pin you down in the details of these orb activities, looking for possible rational explanations, but this evoked even wilder claims and visionary experiences. Trying to be kind, but &quot;...attached to a structure that was not of this world.&quot; says a lot. All others can do, for the gazillionth time, is quote Dr. Sagan: &quot;Extraordinary claims....etc.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, very late to the party. The claims by Dan appear to be ballooning into the realm of the fantastic. No one here -AFAIK &#8211; was witness to these orbs, so we must go with whatever evidence is presented. Oh&#8230;there is no evidence. Sorry, mate, but are you seriously asking readers of this blog to accept any of these claims as evidence of aliens? Originally, some here tried to pin you down in the details of these orb activities, looking for possible rational explanations, but this evoked even wilder claims and visionary experiences. Trying to be kind, but &#8220;&#8230;attached to a structure that was not of this world.&#8221; says a lot. All others can do, for the gazillionth time, is quote Dr. Sagan: &#8220;Extraordinary claims&#8230;.etc.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/how-to-talk-to-a-ufologist/#comment-12328</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://skepticblog.org/?p=4070#comment-12328</guid>
		<description>i need to clarify that the orbs 4-6 meters across were round luminous objects and not orbs as in a round ball, but like a coin, &#039;flatish&#039; and round. they were not like conventional lights in that they did not emit a beam of light but were lit up! two of the objects were independent and free but under control and two when i approached them were attached to a structure that was not of this world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i need to clarify that the orbs 4-6 meters across were round luminous objects and not orbs as in a round ball, but like a coin, &#8216;flatish&#8217; and round. they were not like conventional lights in that they did not emit a beam of light but were lit up! two of the objects were independent and free but under control and two when i approached them were attached to a structure that was not of this world.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/how-to-talk-to-a-ufologist/#comment-12306</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://skepticblog.org/?p=4070#comment-12306</guid>
		<description>i watched the dots but could not hear a sound and the associated brief was interesting. they are different types of orbs. i have seen some the size of a grapefruit semi translucent emitting a grayish white light. some the size of ping pong balls yellowy orange with a fizzy white perimeter and others maybe 4-6 meters ( 12-18 foot ) across like a bright moon or with concentric silver and gold circles. the moon type orbs formed like a jigsaw over several seconds. by the way all these sightings were witnessed and in one instance we were standing no more than 4 meters (12 foot) away from four orbs that formed a square.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i watched the dots but could not hear a sound and the associated brief was interesting. they are different types of orbs. i have seen some the size of a grapefruit semi translucent emitting a grayish white light. some the size of ping pong balls yellowy orange with a fizzy white perimeter and others maybe 4-6 meters ( 12-18 foot ) across like a bright moon or with concentric silver and gold circles. the moon type orbs formed like a jigsaw over several seconds. by the way all these sightings were witnessed and in one instance we were standing no more than 4 meters (12 foot) away from four orbs that formed a square.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/how-to-talk-to-a-ufologist/#comment-12288</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://skepticblog.org/?p=4070#comment-12288</guid>
		<description>Do you hear anything, when you watch the following animation?
http://www.klab.caltech.edu/~saenz/movingdots.html

I haven&#039;t seen UFO&#039;s, but I&#039;ve seen some things that others may mistake for UFO&#039;s. It&#039;s fascinating how a simple flying orb can turn one&#039;s world view upside down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you hear anything, when you watch the following animation?<br />
<a href="http://www.klab.caltech.edu/~saenz/movingdots.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.klab.caltech.edu/~saenz/movingdots.html</a></p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen UFO&#8217;s, but I&#8217;ve seen some things that others may mistake for UFO&#8217;s. It&#8217;s fascinating how a simple flying orb can turn one&#8217;s world view upside down.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
